Joe Weisenthal

Then suddenly...

How SimCity ruined the American economy.

This is amazing.

Now I really actually want to do this episode.

Post-COVID, you get this re-enthusiasm for manufacturing, just supply chain reasons, also national security reasons.

We get the CHIPS Act.

We get the Inflation Reduction Act.

What did that look like from the perspective of these big programs, these sort of the Biden era programs?

What did that look like from your perspective?

You already sort of alluded to this, but does it feel good to be in a state where it's like every national election is just geared towards making the citizens of Pennsylvania happy?

You're talking to some mayor from Florida.

It's like, try being a swing state.

Try being the most important state for the electoral college.

That must be nice.

One reason that people are very excited or that people have an affinity towards manufacturing is the jobs, right?

And you mentioned the jobs and people saying people go to work.

Another reason, particularly over the last several years or the last post-COVID, is for national security reasons, not wanting to rely on China or other countries for really critical things.

However, some of these most advanced industries, they're not particularly going to be job heavy, right?

There's a lot of robotics and increasing automation.

Is there a disconnect between the sort of