Joe Weisenthal

But as you mentioned earlier, there are redundancies built into the system.

What are redundancies that I guess we're not as attuned to at the moment?

What are the weaknesses that we should be really thinking about?

Jo, I was trying to think of a really remote place in the world that might not have fiber optic cable yet.

And so I looked up Kiribati and it turns out there's a cable that's supposed to have become operational funded by the US, Australia and Japan in 2025.

But I can't see anything about whether it actually did start working.

What are the things that governments or private companies can actually do if they're worried about bad actors out there who might be attacking this vital infrastructure?

This was going to be my next question, actually.

So your book came out, I think, just in October of last year.

So still relatively new.

How does the rise of AI, the hyperscalers, the data centers actually change the trajectory of the subsea cable world?

All right, Samanth Subramaniam, we're going to have to leave it there.

But thank you so much for coming on All Thoughts.

That was super interesting.

There's a lot to kind of pick over in that discussion.

I'm very interested in how we I mean, it's sort of a parallel of the global economy, isn't it?

Where you used to have consortiums who would work together to build these things.

And now it's just sort of one of four very large tech companies that are doing most of it.

The other thing that I was thinking about is just I didn't realize the militaries had their own cables.

But again, it makes a lot of sense.