Joe Wiesenthal

Let's do a recurring spring trip to London.

Now, when you're in London, do you feel the urge to sort of stroke your beard and think about geopolitics?

Can I say, well, yes, for sure.

But as you can confirm, anytime there's like some big, you know, there's something feels pivotal or historical or geopolitical, I turn to you in the office.

I say, you know what we really need?

We really need like an episode with an old guy with a British accent.

Like some moments, that's just what it calls for.

You gave the secret away.

It doesn't really matter who it is per se, but it's like there's a certain type of guest that's like, this is what this moment calls for.

Someone with wisdom, someone with perspective.

All right.

Well, you've given it away at this point, but we are back here for our yearly check-in with Martin Wolf, who is, of course, the chief economics commentator over at the Financial Times, one of the most famous geopolitics, geoeconomics commentators of all time, and someone who is really good to talk to when we're living through these potentially historic, capital H, historic events on what seems to be

more than a yearly basis at this point.

So the last time we spoke to him was in April of 2025, and it was just after the Liberation Day tariff announcements.

Now we're here in May 2026, and we have the Iran situation going on.

We have headlines about further fracturing of US-Europe relations.

I mean, all of these potentially pivotal moments seem to be happening on a sort of monthly, if not weekly basis at this point.

Absolutely right.

And as you mentioned, when we were here last year, it was in the immediate wake.

I mean, I think maybe even just a week after the or a few days after the liberation day, tariff schedule had come out.