Joe

My point is it's out there, and now it's become a little easier to get to people who are contributors to these games.

And when that happens, that's when you've got a problem.

Right.

I mean, we all do something like that.

And look, you got the sporting events.

When they become in-house with teams, they're part of the actual in-game experience.

Yes, absolutely.

But I'm not even talking about going to a game right now.

You have a Rivers Casino thing right there in PBG Paints Arena.

I think those people who are corrupt in doing this are going to go to the people who don't have money.

And as we've seen, even in the NBA, even if you do have money, you'd be willing to make a stupid enough deal with somebody like that.

But if you're a college kid and you're not one of the elite players and you see a chance to make $10,000 and all you have to do is throw a couple of balls inadvertently out of bounds, I guess that would be tempting.

There's all kinds of tempting.

And this is where the phone and the digital age comes into play because I think it really does—

Luis Ortiz would argue with you and say, no, I can miss one pitch.

Well, all I know is it's something that's not going to change.

You're going to see more of it, I'm sure.

Even though stuff like this should send a message to people, hey, we're watching.

Hey, if you do this, sooner or later you're going to be caught.

Don't do it.