Joe

And that was about building other programs and pathways and all of this big picture stuff.

So it's interesting in the midst of all that, that, you know, Bernard Dunn will say, Jim Gavin wants to meet you for a chat.

And that three hour meeting morphs into you work with the Dublin footballers and

I've mentioned some of the teams at the top of the show, be it the Tipperary Hurlers, the Cork Hurlers, the Irish rugby team now in a kind of full-time capacity for the last five years or so.

So you've kind of segued a little bit from that real programme director thing into maybe working directly with teams.

And as I understand it, like one-on-one work with players and talking to the group a lot and kind of like into the weeds of a group.

Is that right?

So you need to have the full picture.

Yeah.

could you like give us yeah really interesting could you give us like some very specific detailed examples of like regardless of almost any team or individual you're working with here are my my go-to things and you know maybe people listening glean something from it as well what are the things that you put in like you get a call from any team and you just know regardless of the team i got a certain template certain things i'm going to speak to them about

It strikes me the way you're talking about it, that a lot of these people are under severe pressure.

You know, you take the rugby team, you take the dubs, you take any of the teams you work with, elite level.

They're young men and women.

There's scrutiny, there's scrutiny of the coaches, the media themselves, their families, their friends.

It's just a lot.

You know what I mean?

And it strikes me that the plan is a wonderful force field that I can wrap around me, take comfort in my plan.

And it makes, you use the word feel, not think.

So I feel, I feel ready.

I feel prepared.