Joe

And I'm sure you've seen Nick Kyrgios, right?

I have.

Who was bitten back.

So after the Battle of the Sexes, you were asked, you know, should he get a wild card to the Australian Open?

And you said, I don't think so.

And, you know, Nick, when he's in a corner, comes out punching.

He said he was kind of doing a walkthrough somewhere and pressed around him.

He said, I'm pretty sure Greg was done for performance enhancing drugs, so I wouldn't take any advice from him.

So he's played the man, not the ball there.

Um, the, the Nandrolone positive in 2003, I must say I had forgotten it or I just didn't know it at the time until we were due to speak to you.

Um,

This was in 03, and you were cleared of charges a few months thereafter.

As I understand it, the ATP themselves think, they can't prove, but think the most likely source was electrolyte tablets or drinks that they themselves were handing out.

And you were one of several who suspect that's how the nandrolone got into their system.

Is that right?

Yeah.

It's a very difficult thing because obviously, look, the world, I think at large, looks at tennis and looks at pretty much every sport now with a huge degree of suspicion.

You know, fool me once and all that.

We've just seen it too many times in too many different ways and invariably...

Pretty much everybody who tests positive reaches for, it wasn't me, it's an excuse.