Joe

But also like, as we saw in 2002, has a certain stubbornness as well.

And so I felt sorry for that guy in that position where, you know, his better instincts of being reasonable and decent in the midst of the pressure cooker of Saipan with Roy Keane, who at times is unmanageable, ended up in like the worst five days of his managerial career.

And he's defined by it in some ways.

And I think that's sort of, no, I don't think that irritates him massively to this day.

So I feel sorry for that Mick McCarthy.

The Mick McCarthy in the movie is out of his depth.

Like, lucky to be there.

What's this guy bringing to the party, really?

Terrible man-manager.

So that frustrated me because that's not the story.

That's not who Mick McCarthy is.

So Mick McCarthy is a great weakness in this movie when we're talking about it taking sides.

God, I didn't want to play for that Mick McCarthy either.

His performance, if you didn't know any better.

Yeah.

You'd watch it and... See, we weren't there, obviously, in real life.

But you'd watch it and think, well, could Mick have not done a better job of it?

Instead of saying, if you want to have a whinge about it, have a whinge about it.

You'd just be like, how could he not manage Roy Keane a little bit better here?

It makes Roy Keane seem very reasonable under the circumstances, which are obviously a complete shit show, that it's almost like Roy in the movie, Roy didn't need much managing.