Joe

Certainly, there are a lot of things involved that we will never know about.

Of course.

I see it in our business.

There are things that happen and you're never going to get to the bottom of it because people aren't going to say anything about what actually led to it.

So you're left to believe what you want to believe and you're right.

You can have cynicism because that leads to it.

I don't have any problem with that.

But I also know that this is what you're going to get.

And I believe what he said, that this was more of a... And I'll use burnout.

I keep using that word.

To me, that's a multifaceted word because it takes into account a lot of things that could lead to a burnout situation.

Family...

Obviously, I know for a fact that over the time that I've done a show with him that he's talked about, man, I wish I could have been there.

He's missed those opportunities.

Well, that's another reason.

He said he's not interested in numbers.

I think this proves that.

If he wanted to get that number, he could have very easily done it, stayed here for another year.

But that wasn't what's driving him at this point of his life or career, so...

You know, I, I just think there's a lot more to a lot more layers to everything.