Joe

Donnie just hangs up on the guest no matter what, so I don't get a chance to say goodbye.

Anybody, any of our guests, he continues to talk.

Donnie, when he's in there hosting and I'm producing, he'll say, ex-guest, check him out here.

Have a good one.

All right.

Bye Donnie.

Thanks.

And that's normally when I will say goodbye, but Donnie always goes and there he goes and he hangs up on him.

The winner goes on.

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Let's hear that again.

So I see what Brooke Pryor meant by that question, and I think it's a good one.

Because if you lose this game, the vibe and the sentiment around what this season was is a lot different than if you get to the playoffs and even lose a playoff game.

Because even in previous seasons during this streak of eight consecutive years, what could be going on nine without a playoff win?

if you go to the playoffs because at this point

There were two separate options that you could have had.

You could have either been a team that missed the playoffs but won like six games, five games, and had a good draft pick.

Okay.

Or go to the playoffs and have an actual chance to win a playoff game.