Joe

We had a lot of people call us last night and say, look at what he's done in the postseason.

I said, every coach has these blemishes on them.

Even the most successful ones have losses.

But he did something this year that never has been done before, and then he had –

you know 10 point leads or more with five up that quarterback i can tell you that's a big part of it developing so i think that's a guy be interested how about stefanski for both of you any interest yes i have interest in stefanski you know i first of all i don't think he's the problem in cleveland they fired the wrong guy they probably should have fired andrew berry the owner should have fired himself for that too so he could definitely be in the mix although how old is he by the way is he still um not that that matters can you look that up limits you're the beat writer

He's only 43?

Yeah, he's young.

Right.

If you want another guy who's proven himself, we went to Seattle.

How about Clint Kubiak?

And it wasn't his decision to move on from Baker Mayfield either.

No, and you're lassoed with that.

How does it not affect you?

But do you think the knowledge he has about the division and his – I think that is – The fact he's only 43 blows me away.

That's why I asked.

I knew he was still young.

I couldn't remember what he was.

Where did Chuck Knoll come from?

Chuck Knoll was, you know, I don't think it does matter.

I think it's what they believe is the best person through the interview process.