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Joel Hron

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Oh, 100%.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And we hear that loud and clear from our customers.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like, you know, if we just spit out an answer, I don't care how right it is.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Like, there is very little trust of it, as there should be, I think.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I think trust is earned over the course of time.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And, you know, we need to do everything we can to earn that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

But I think in the time between now and then, like explainability and transparency are super important.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

We actually just had a product review this morning with our tax team.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And we were going through the same topic about what the right levels of transparency and human agency is necessary in the process.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

And it is a balance between giving the user enough of that, but also not making it so they're having to validate every step that the agent takes, because that's not really helpful either.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Kind of needs a purpose, yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

So trying to find the right balance of what's enough there is a learning experience as we sort of work with customers and clients on this type of thing.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I think the other thing that we've done in terms of explainability overall is...

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

really try to include the context of the source of any conclusion within the application itself.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

So for instance, in a deep research answer, there's deep links to resolve to the actual cases that supported this answer.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

There's flags.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

I mentioned Keysight earlier.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

There's like

The Neuron: AI Explained
How Thomson Reuters Built AI Agents That Think Like Lawyers

The same UI flags that exist in our legacy application exist in this answer to give the user these visual clues about where to go next and how to launch from here.