Joel Lorenzi

I get their interest in Billy.

Like, he's a known commodity to their franchise.

While I don't think his resume is all that impressive in the NBA, he's a culture setter.

The guys that matter on his team apparently seem to like playing for him.

So they have that going.

And I think they're kind of, to me, they're maybe overcompensating a bit.

Mike was overcompensating a bit for what AK lacked.

And that's why they're probably clinging to Billy, to me.

The lack of communication and messaging.

AK not necessarily being a culture setter.

These are the things that Billy is and why I think...

And while I don't think it's wise when you're trying to widen your candidate pool, I think it's wider clinging to Billy.

Yeah.

The only path is risk, which I don't think Michael is very keen to risk right now, based on listening to him talk.

People forget, man.

Sam, those teams, after that, because now you're seeing it is a copycat league.

Some of the things...

sam's thunder teams did during that period like starting xavier simpson and playing them 40 minutes at the end of the season um like that that was pretty bad tanking right exactly what are you watching here but people forget i mean they were getting called a black eye of the league people forget because they had this unnaturally quick turnaround sam is smart as hell man sam is super smart um

But also it started with Sam, and we can get into the layers about this and what Michael's thoughts say about the kind of control he both wants Billy to have and Michael still wants to have.

You need to hire somebody.