Joel Parkinson

Bede's idea too, like Bede.

Obviously, the idea kind of went other ways, but it was started with Bede.

So we all thank Bede for...

The vision.

Is Bede a bit of an entrepreneur?

Is that his vibe?

Bede is just a legend.

Bede is a white Fijian.

He's just, he's a legend of a bloke and super mellow, calm and yeah, just good decision maker.

About 10 years.

Five sale and then we had five more years working there.

Yeah, no, just I guess we were just a part of it for five years doing the promotions and doing whatever we were asked to do.

I mean, we never had like the – Bede had a job there for a bit.

but myself and Mick and Josh were never, you know, employees or anything.

Yeah, it was really cool.

And plus, I mean, we were all at that stage of life where we'd kind of finished our surfing career too.

So we were just like, what are we going to do?

You know, like what's next?

And Balto was so amazing, you know, to be a part of and, you know,

I guess not everything can be a unicorn, but it was just one.