Joel Pearson

How on earth?

So like one of you said before that the human race is hugely resilient.

I think we will get to some kind of AI utopia, like a total change, a revamp in our society.

How old are you?

What do you think?

I'm 44.

I'm 44.

Okay.

A little bit younger than me.

Yeah.

I think in our lifetime, I don't know when, maybe it's 10, maybe it's 20 years, but I think from here to there is going to be really bumpy.

And so the key to surviving or thriving, hanging on to the quality of our lives the next two decades, let's say, is the key to that is to focus on us and our quality of life, to ways of handling this change, because humans are bad at change.

And we can go into sort of this idea of change management models that we could apply at home, at work, or for a whole nation.

So we've sort of written a white paper on this, a change management plan for all of Australia and what that might look like, what that might involve.

So I think change, just this way of making change less painful for people is one of the things the government should be stepping up and thinking about planning for right now.

Is it even on the radar?

It's not a thing.

So they are setting up an AI safety center, but it's very small and it's very focused only on the model safety themselves.

So the job of the safety center at the moment is to just test the models and see how safe they are.

And that's kind of where things are.