Joel Pearson

Okay.

So that's just not a mental health thing.

It's a broader thing.

So purpose is really important.

So we don't want to think about some kind of universal basic or high income as some kind of, you know, retirement, do nothing.

That's just not going to drive well with who we are.

It's not going to work.

It's going to be quite negative.

So whatever we move to, we have to solve for the purpose and competition and a few other things, but purpose probably being the big one.

So one of the things we've been working on is this kind of what I call the owners, onus revolution.

And I use that word as an owner of projects we're going to be doing.

It's very similar to the way a lot of people talk about entrepreneurship.

But when you say that, it kind of has some baggage with it.

So I tend not to use that phrase.

But I think we're going to be moving into a world where big companies are going to shrink.

You won't need thousands of employees to do things.

And we're at the same time going to see an explosion of lots of very small companies with one or two people.

And with the support of AI and robotics, they're going to be doing all kinds of amazing things.

Some of those will be for profit.

Some of those will be not for profit.