Joey Carson

When you step into a company like that, a lot of people are like, well, who's this guy?

What's he going to do?

Or am I going to lose my job and that?

But the truth is, I went in there with the intention of never, ever wanting to bring in someone from the outside.

So I was able to create departments.

And the people that rose to those positions were kind of already doing them anyway.

And so we started to function kind of as a team.

And then on the development side, we put a process in place kind of that we followed at the studios where we would just generate new ideas, take more outside meetings, all of that sort of thing.

And then we just started to really, just by following that formula, start cranking out a lot of things that were ultimately very, very successful.

That's a great question.

And I faced exactly that.

I could have stayed in that Fox job, and people do.

People stay in those jobs for 20 years.

But I've always had the personal, I don't know what you want to call it, but I always want to feel like I have unlimited upside potential.

It's almost like when you buy a lottery ticket,

like the day before, until they actually call the numbers, you start visualizing, okay, I'm gonna do this.

And I like the feeling of knowing that there's unlimited upside.

So on the other side of that, anytime I found myself in my career kind of bumping up this against like you just mentioned, like there's no way out, I get really, like a lot of people like the safety, that drives me nuts.

Like I like the uncertainty because again, anything can happen.

So, in fact, each time in my career when I made a move, and Buna Murray is a great example, I took actually a backward step.