Joey Carson

But I think just being arm of the facts and being enthusiastic about it.

And also, I think if you have a few other people that are on your team, like maybe it's a small group of people or you and somebody else, so you're not just going in by yourself.

I think that helps as well.

This, I think, is one of the most important topics in anyone's career, and I'm glad you brought it up, because I was really lucky that I had phenomenal mentors throughout my career, like industry legends.

If I named them off, you would know who they are.

But I didn't start off that way.

Early in my career, I was very much...

a solo go-ahead guy.

I'm gonna do it myself, I don't need any help.

I don't want it to even appear like I'm doing this because I'm trying to kiss this guy's ass or be in this little clique of people over here.

Especially in corporate environments, a lot of it's like that.

There's people that are just trying to play the political game rather than, and I was always about results.

So for a long time in my career,

And I think I probably could have gotten further faster even though I did pretty well because I had that closed off mindset.

Once I opened myself up to that and allowed myself to be coached effectively, the entire world opened up, like more than you can ever imagine.

And I relied on, it's almost like I had a kitchen cabinet of these older executives that had been around for decades.

And if I had a problem, I would call them up.

So there's some things that I had to deal with in my career, which were making national news at the time.

In real time, it was scary.

And the way I navigated through that was by leaning on my mentors to give me the advice.