Johan Derksen

It just seemed like he was walking on a few art holes.

And then I say that.

You said that Peter Gillis was fitter.

Yes.

But if Van Persie says it's not smart because you have to see it in a few weeks, I can't say that here.

You're asking me how I can play it full.

I can't say I think it's better in a few weeks.

You're right.

You judge him on his performance that day.

And it's no coincidence that he was sent away from Chelsea and wasn't in Arsenal.

Van Persie thought that was wrong.

Yes, but I don't find it interesting what Van Persie thinks, because he thinks of everything.

But what I think is that de Kloesen made a stupid mistake by getting Van Persie, who as a coach had not performed.

Now he gets a director.

Kees van Wolden.

The technical director of Wonderen has never had a job as a technical director.

Then you have to have a network with business managers, with managers.

And he doesn't have that at all.

So he's going to make all the rookie mistakes again.

So the kluse doesn't understand.