Johan Gabrielsen

And I think that his attachment to the lodge is somehow also his attachment to the kind of innocence and childhood that all these men were part of.

And these men still congregate at the lodge.

They're there all the time.

They are.

I mean, and I go back to again that I have this feeling that, you know, I went to boarding school and I can still sense that when I meet my old friends from boarding school, we are the way we were when we were kids almost.

And I feel that they...

are at this lodge kind of kids, the way they react to each other.

But mixed in that is something that is very typical.

Sorry, it's very typical for that generation, that thing that you just take it.

You never really talk about your feelings or the turbulence that's around you.

Gordon doesn't communicate and it drives his wife crazy.

Kelly, crazy, because there's also that kind of proud, silent generation of men that doesn't really know how to talk about their feelings or how to express them.

And I see them as well when I did my documentary and I met them, that there is something else going on that never really comes out.

And I think that Malcolm Knox captured that generation of manliness

beautifully and very accurate.

But that's interesting what you say, that social critique, because when I read it, I felt it was like a tenderness towards this character, almost like a lost world that's disappearing, like Bondi has disappeared, and soon maybe the Northern Shore, those...

beach places would look like bonda you know quite sanitized places and it was a loss of that culture and the tenants for the people who were part of that culture almost like a not as much as a love letter but it's all but expression of something that is irreversible is going to happen and the slight sadness of that

Absolutely right.

And also, it's interesting to know how Gordon's dad, for instance, Ron, who is a horrible character in a way, but also quite funny, how he thinks, What do you stand for, Gordon?

You stake your existence on stopping anything from happening to that rundown dump.