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John Arnold

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
791 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And I was getting the 20%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

So I had the best or as good economics as almost anybody in the business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And then we had very good financial returns early on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

So that did two things.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

Number one, there was a lot of retained earnings and new investors came in.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And so we had a lot of risk capital.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And second was we had a very good investor base that trusted,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

The team I had built, whenever we had a down month or a down time period, which we had, they weren't calling to redeem, but they would call up and say, do you need more capital?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

Because we had earned their trust and we had done forced distributions along the way.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

So I'd set up this really powerful seat where I had good economics so I could hire the best people in the business that I knew of.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

We had a lot of risk capital and had a very solid and stable investor base.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

We started at two and 20.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

We did very well and had more demand to invest than we had capacity.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

We raised the fees over time and ended up at three and 35 by the end.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And that allows investment in the business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

So you can build up a fundamentals team that's best in the business because you need to pay them more.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

You can go do side projects, like trying to get proprietary data sources that give an advantage.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And you can pay the trading team and the mid and back office more money.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

And so everything in the business starts to work and you have the sense of excellence around the firm that makes everybody better.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
John Arnold - China, Energy Markets and Fixing America's Systems - [Invest Like the Best, EP.461]

We're able to develop a proprietary trade entry system and position management system.