John Ashbrook

It's exactly right. And that was the first time they had expanded it from the idea. And I'm telling you, until the 2000s, Until the 2000s, this was not something that was recognized outside of what we used to call intimate partners.

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Quite a bit about you, Megan. That that little tidbit might explain quite a bit about your tilt.

Quite a bit about you, Megan. That that little tidbit might explain quite a bit about your tilt.

Quite a bit about you, Megan. That that little tidbit might explain quite a bit about your tilt.

I believe there were 51 witnesses who the defense called Leslie Abramson, who tried it admirably and who He's still alive and was one of the great defense lawyers around. Leslie had called 51 witnesses, including experts, including family members, who testified to the range of things that were going on there.

I believe there were 51 witnesses who the defense called Leslie Abramson, who tried it admirably and who He's still alive and was one of the great defense lawyers around. Leslie had called 51 witnesses, including experts, including family members, who testified to the range of things that were going on there.

I believe there were 51 witnesses who the defense called Leslie Abramson, who tried it admirably and who He's still alive and was one of the great defense lawyers around. Leslie had called 51 witnesses, including experts, including family members, who testified to the range of things that were going on there.

One of the things that sticks out to me is this idea that there was a rule in the household that if Jose was with one of the boys in a room down the hall, you could not go down the hall. And that is chilling to me. There were in the second trial, literally, I want to say 20 some odd witnesses who were not allowed to testify that could not corroborate what Eric was saying.

One of the things that sticks out to me is this idea that there was a rule in the household that if Jose was with one of the boys in a room down the hall, you could not go down the hall. And that is chilling to me. There were in the second trial, literally, I want to say 20 some odd witnesses who were not allowed to testify that could not corroborate what Eric was saying.

One of the things that sticks out to me is this idea that there was a rule in the household that if Jose was with one of the boys in a room down the hall, you could not go down the hall. And that is chilling to me. There were in the second trial, literally, I want to say 20 some odd witnesses who were not allowed to testify that could not corroborate what Eric was saying.

So you had this idea that by the time you got to the closing argument, you could allow, and this is exactly what happened, the district attorney to make a closing argument that said, oh, this is an abuse excuse. These are rich kids. They just wanted to inherit money. There was no corroboration. They were a bunch of whiners.

So you had this idea that by the time you got to the closing argument, you could allow, and this is exactly what happened, the district attorney to make a closing argument that said, oh, this is an abuse excuse. These are rich kids. They just wanted to inherit money. There was no corroboration. They were a bunch of whiners.

So you had this idea that by the time you got to the closing argument, you could allow, and this is exactly what happened, the district attorney to make a closing argument that said, oh, this is an abuse excuse. These are rich kids. They just wanted to inherit money. There was no corroboration. They were a bunch of whiners.

In the first trial, you were able to corroborate, you were able to put on the witnesses, including family members, including experts who corroborated all of this. And there was also a ruling and several rulings as to Lyle, which basically boxed Lyle in from being able to testify.

In the first trial, you were able to corroborate, you were able to put on the witnesses, including family members, including experts who corroborated all of this. And there was also a ruling and several rulings as to Lyle, which basically boxed Lyle in from being able to testify.

In the first trial, you were able to corroborate, you were able to put on the witnesses, including family members, including experts who corroborated all of this. And there was also a ruling and several rulings as to Lyle, which basically boxed Lyle in from being able to testify.

So there was a monumental change in the rulings between trial number one and trial number two, the witnesses that were allowed to be called in trial number one and trial number two. And I look forward to presenting that because those are the things that are, to my mind, irrebuttable. It's factual determinations.