John Bickley

They steered $1,500 a day contracts to friends. Well, a lot of this sounds pretty clearly like fraud. Have there been any complaints to that effect?

That sounds like a good time. I have to read this quote from your story because it seems like employees were

That sounds like a good time. I have to read this quote from your story because it seems like employees were

actually pretty open that this agency just existed for the benefit of its employees one told you and here's the quote let me give you the honest truth a lot of fmcs employees don't do a hell of a lot including myself personally the reason that i've stayed is that i just don't feel like working that hard plus the location on k street is great plus we all have these oversized offices with windows plus management doesn't seem to care if we stay out at lunch a long time can you blame me

actually pretty open that this agency just existed for the benefit of its employees one told you and here's the quote let me give you the honest truth a lot of fmcs employees don't do a hell of a lot including myself personally the reason that i've stayed is that i just don't feel like working that hard plus the location on k street is great plus we all have these oversized offices with windows plus management doesn't seem to care if we stay out at lunch a long time can you blame me

This is the kind of thing you heard from the employees.

This is the kind of thing you heard from the employees.

The examples in the story just go on and on. 18,000 at a jewelry store, a storage facility for pictures of a former employee's dog. Most people didn't even know this agency existed. Certainly makes you wonder how many more there are like this.

The examples in the story just go on and on. 18,000 at a jewelry store, a storage facility for pictures of a former employee's dog. Most people didn't even know this agency existed. Certainly makes you wonder how many more there are like this.

Luke, thanks so much for reporting.

Luke, thanks so much for reporting.

Here to help us make sense of recent judicial actions is Daniel Huff, senior legal fellow at the American Path Initiative and former Trump White House attorney. Hey, Dan, so you say these judges who have placed broad freezes on the Trump administration's actions, they're ignoring a key rule, the injunction bond requirement, and that effectively invalidates their orders.

Here to help us make sense of recent judicial actions is Daniel Huff, senior legal fellow at the American Path Initiative and former Trump White House attorney. Hey, Dan, so you say these judges who have placed broad freezes on the Trump administration's actions, they're ignoring a key rule, the injunction bond requirement, and that effectively invalidates their orders.

The Trump administration's making the same argument now. So first, what is that requirement?

The Trump administration's making the same argument now. So first, what is that requirement?

Now, do you think most of these cases will escalate to the Supreme Court?

Now, do you think most of these cases will escalate to the Supreme Court?

Final question. In the end, do you think the Trump administration will succeed in most of these efforts to cut costs and waste?

Final question. In the end, do you think the Trump administration will succeed in most of these efforts to cut costs and waste?

Fascinating legal duels going on here. Dan, thanks so much for joining us.