John Block

better and so i'd say that's an interesting metric that you care so squarely about it's an important metric it's not the only metric it's an important metric but if that's your only measuring stick i'm sorry we should be thinking about what better it looks like you know let's pick five different metrics that we should think about do you have really good employee attention have you developed people that are getting better a year from now do you have customers that love you

You know, those types of things are hugely impactful to the long-term nature of the business.

Have you done it?

Have you gotten the growth capital efficiently?

That's the kind of revenue versus EBITDA, but there's kind of more to it than that.

Have you set yourself up in areas that allowed for sustained growth from there?

Let's talk about all these things instead of just picking one singular metric and saying, I went 5 to 15 of EBITDA, so I'm a hero.

You know, there's just more to it than that.

I'm just going to do what I did earlier and flip the script slightly.

What would you tell yourself from 20 years ago?

I'm going to ask you a question.

I love that.

I love that.

I asked that question because I think too often it's easy for me to come up with something else to share, but I've been sharing a lot, and I think it's fun to hear a little bit from you too, John, and so I appreciate that, and I appreciate using my last question on flipping the script, so thank you.