John Burn-Murdoch

cognitive behavioral therapy and conversation-based therapies.

Do you think AI could help with this mental health problem?

Very big picture.

If people are looking for things to get excited about, things that you see coming down the line in the next year or two in the whole health tech space, what's keeping you awake at night in a good way?

Tell us a little bit more about that.

Really, really remarkable.

So we've got these rapid gains in early-stage detection, rapid gains in treatment, and alongside with GLP-1s, the potential for rapid gains in prevention as well.

And presumably, again, with a lot of this, the life extension, sorry, there's going to be all sorts of interesting second-order effects that we're only just starting to talk about.

Well, that's a wonderful note to end this on, Sir John.

So thank you so much for joining us on Radical.

It's been a real pleasure.

Yeah, nice to talk.

So Professor Sir John Bell has just left the studio.

And one thing I found really, really interesting, and it's just changed how I think about all of this, is that the previous wave of medical technology gains, as it were, were extending lives, but not always making those extra years healthy years.

People were living longer, but a lot of those years were lived in poor health.

That was not good for them.

It was not good for the healthcare system that had to spend huge amounts of time and money supporting them in those years.

Whereas now we're looking between the breakthroughs in prevention in terms of the anti-obesity drugs, in addition to personalized medicine and that kind of thing.

It feels like we're now talking about extra years, which will also be lived in good health.

I think that's really quite remarkable.