John Burn-Murdoch

So that, again, is definitely part of what's going on here, right?

That is part of this slow-moving process that's been playing out over decades.

You've had the feminist movement, which was in part actually based on concrete... Well, it was pushing for and then championing these real material changes in the world.

So the ratio of young women's to men's earnings has been closing and closing.

Many young women now earn more than their male counterparts.

So that is, again, a real part of this.

Because I think, you know...

It feels a bit icky sometimes talking about this, but the relative sort of socioeconomic dynamics of a prospective couple do matter.

Like we can pretend they don't, but there's loads of studies showing that they do.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Exactly.

Well, it's that plus it's the fact that in the past when women had significantly less financial independence...

A guy was a keeper if he simply pulled down a salary, right?

You know, he would provide stability, security, that kind of thing.

Whereas now, there's a lot of women out there in high-powered jobs earning a good wage.

And it's, well, you know, sure, this guy seems cool, but...

Is he critical?

Do I need him?

Do I need that?

But again, the issue here is that these are very slow moving trends.