John Cena

Um, in, in my case, I guess I always, I always try to look for a good explanation.

Right.

Um,

In our business, when you hear negative noise, the knee-jerk reaction is to jump on the audience, to turn heel, so to speak, to be a bad guy.

But that's not what I was told.

The person who can make those decisions and the creative body making those choices is saying, like, we're not doing that.

Well, that was Vince.

And even now, like in some cases, let's take the year of retirement.

I think a lot of people were wondering what would happen if John Cena turned heel, if I turned heel.

And then when I did, it left a taste in people's mouth that they didn't like it.

And like, they wanted other stuff.

I wanted a music change.

I wanted a uniform change.

I wanted him to act like this.

Well, we've been talking about it for 15 years.

Never thought it was going to happen.

I got 11 months to do this, 36 TV appearances.

It takes five years to get a guy over, regardless.

If you turn him, it's going to take a year or two on television for it really to sink in, especially if you really want to get into it and then be able to flip and then get a guy to get a nice, or get a performer to get a nice flip on the other side when it's time to turn again.

I don't have the time to tell the right story.