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John Collison

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587 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

radars way many years ago used to be

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

bulky, complex, very expensive, you know, when we're putting them on planes and, you know, but then we start putting them on cars, now you can get a decent automotive radar for, you know, tons of dollars.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

There is, you know, a variant of the automotive radar, and it's called the imaging radar, and it gives you a richer thing.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So that is also, you know, has come down in cost drastically, but it's a little bit behind your standard automotive radars.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

LIDARs are following the same very predictable, very well-known trend.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So we're writing that and we're also learning from the previous generation to just make improvements and simplifications and optimizations.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

You know, it's all blasting, you know,

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

Effectively, like blasting photos out there, and then they bounce off of something, they come back, you measure what comes back.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

The frequencies are very different.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So laser gives you, it's very, very high resolution.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So you can think of it as like a laser beam that goes out, spins around, it shoots out millions of these laser pulses.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

you know per second and then each one comes back and you can you know kind of you're kind of sampling the 3d structure of the world with very high resolution a lot of very fine grain map that's right radar has much lower resolution but because of you know the physics of it it can uh it degrades much better in uh adverse weather conditions so fog

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

snow, heavy rain.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So that could be occluded by verticals between it and the target.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So imagine driving in super dense fog.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

Yes.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

We're close to San Francisco, so probably don't have to think that hard.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

It can be really hard to see.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So cameras degrade.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

Laser, depending on the size of the particulates, can degrade better or worse than camera.