John Collison

in the nominal case, drive pretty darn well, which is mind-blowingly impressive.

That is very funny, yeah.

I just want to be clear, it's...

Orders of magnitude away from what you need.

Exactly, exactly.

And you can actually, the product that you wanted to build was maybe a driver assist system, not a fully autonomous system.

Then maybe that's all you need to do.

And then for that, you don't need all this other machinery of the simulator and the critic because the number of nines is drastically lower.

But this is interesting because there is some...

intuition behind you know why that works if you think about the hard parts of driving it's you know not unlike you know having a conversation except if in the llm world right having you know your modeling

language or maybe modeling a dialogue in the space of sentences and words.

What makes driving hard is also this kind of multi-agent social interactive part of it.

And if I do something that's going to affect you, it's going to affect somebody else.

And the history matters.

It's not local and just geometric.

Context matters.

Semantics matters.

So, but it's in a different, you know, it's not in the language of words, it's in the language of kind of

Well, body language, if you will, right?

So, and we see that empirically validated if you do this approach.