John Coogan

Other companies are saying, hey, we got to move as fast as possible.

Realistically, is there going to be spyware in a bolt that we buy from China?

Like, let's not worry about that.

It is maybe a supply chain risk if they cut you off, if you're thinking about supply chain resiliency.

But what's your approach been?

Do you want to source entirely from Germany?

German supply chains or European supply chains, Western supply chains or global supply chains?

So at this time, we're focusing right now on the, let's say, European supply chain.

So I still believe in a global world, but I do see right now the biggest advantage of converting them still, because most of the components are there, but they need to be still, let's say, modified to use them for robots.

Here, I'm simply talking about even lifetime.

I mean, through the regulations, the lifetime of the sensors for cars are regulated, basically, so they...

They break, so we have a renewing process going on.

For robots, they're made for 6,000 hours, and the robot takes sensors for 40,000 hours.

There's still a difference, a gap between.

That's also, I think, for us, the most important topic.

Working with the suppliers around us, we are based in Stuttgart, where all the good stuff comes from, the stuff you talked before about.

There is the Bosch, the

the Porsche, the Audis, the Mercedes, everything here around us.

And we are using this supply chain, converting it right now into robotics.

Very cool.