John Currin

Like...

there's like James Bond, right?

And there's, and I'm thinking that, and I'm not, I mean the James Bond of Sean Connery because I think like Daniel Craig actually extended it very cleverly to,

to a different place.

But, but I think the, the, the James Bond of, of, um, of, of Connery, you know, you never see him like walk down, down a street.

You know what I mean?

Like he's either drive, he, he, and I often think about this like almost every day.

I think, you know, like you never see James Bond, like walk to the,

corner and then wait for the light, you know, wait for the walk sign or something like that.

You know, like there's no, he's, it would just never, it would, you can't imagine it really.

And, uh, and he's, you know, he's the, the teeny weeny little indignities of, of, of, of sort of social, uh, uh, so modern social life just never happened to him.

And, and

And that's one way of looking at a man, at a sort of ideal man, no compromise, not even being even aware of it.

And then I was thinking of Clint Eastwood, especially in the Dirty Harry movies,

where that's all it is, is this amazing-looking man who is constantly, like, waiting for walk signs.

And, you know, you see his icky apartment, and there's, like, a rotten apple and a beer in the fridge.

And, you know, as a sort of American, I guess, version of James Bond, or an American... You know, and I always...

I've always like those two, you know, sort of ideals of, of, of, of masculinity.

I've always kind of battled it out in my mind.

And, uh, uh, I, I kind of love both.