John Gafford

We don't have time machines.

You have good information.

one last question because i'm curious about i'm curious your opinion on this because this is this is also kind of a razor's edge that i walk right um so i'm a huge proponent of virtual assistants that are that are global you can get such great employees in different parts of the country um and we hire a bunch of them to do you know the menial stuff right the stuff that can be done anywhere that's fine but you know we we have leaned into some of that in the past to do more

some sales stuff that would come out, some, some customer front facing some past.

And I always look back at like what Peter Thiel 70 said, the magic is in the hallways of, of companies.

So, you know, I'm always finding myself reconciling that I've, I, you know, I like having this remote workforce because of the cost savings and because of, um,

The quality of work is incredible, but I also am torn to like the more people I have in the building, that's where the magic is.

So where do you reconcile with that?

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