John Gafford

But it's cool though, that you brought so many people in and now we're finishing the day, kind of telling your story and how that was.

Cause there's a lot of people out there that, um,

you know, struggle with different things that maybe don't see a way out or don't see, you know, that light at the end of the tunnel that I think your story is going to motivate them to hopefully overcome some of their own maybe demons or personal limitations to have some success in their lives.

So, you know, obviously we don't have to go back to like when you were a kid, but something you said earlier when we were just chatting that I think is probably a good place to start is let's talk about when you were doing a real life imitation of Lindsay Lohan.

That's probably a good time to start.

Well, I want to ask you a question because you glanced over a pretty major life event there, which was, you know, obviously coming to grips with your sexuality and coming out to your parents or whatever that was, or your family or however that was.

Yes.

Was it not well-received, which caused you to become an alcoholic?

Or did you build it up in your mind that it was not going to be well-received, which caused you to be an alcoholic?

Which kind of way was that?

That was 20 years ago, yeah.

So you were wrestling with your own identity in that point.

Yeah, sure.

And then the last- How many times you get pulled over drunk?

A couple of those, you go?

Three DIs.

Go home.

Oh, man.

You were a little slow to learn there.

A little slow learner.