John Ganz

I'm going to reform them.

I'm going to change everything.

So there is a populist spirit which is not entirely contained in either party and, in fact, can attack the party's system itself.

And if you look at the way Trump takes over the Republican Party, he kind of attacks it as a as a almost a third party kind of candidate.

He is not connected with any of the existing power structures.

He's connected with kind of a mass movement in the Republican Party because he has he's a Tea Party figure, but he's not connected really so far and the elites that that.

that that generates, but he's not connected to any of the old party structures.

And that makes him appeal, right?

Because there's a feeling of betrayal, a feeling that those people aren't tough enough.

I mean, the Massey quote where he said, oh, I realized that they didn't care what I believed.

They were just voting for the crazy son of a bitch.

It's one of the most insightful things about American politics anybody's said in about 20 years.

So yeah, there was a desire on many levels for

figure like Trump.

And it was contained, but it couldn't be contained permanently because the voters got fed up.

And they said, we don't like the candidates you're feeding us.

And that way, it's democratic.

I mean, Trump's first election is not through democratic means.

It was through the

system of the electoral college but in terms of the way he took over the republican party he won those primaries fair and square there was a huge huge you know enthusiasm behind him which which i'm sure you guys all remember but the internal party democracy of the republicans allowed trump to happen the democrats still have a little bit of a intact party structure for good and ill