John Greene

Maybe even more so than they might used to be able to do.

You were obviously always willing to evolve and you probably felt it was compulsory that you would do so as the years went by.

Can you remember, going all the way back to 08, any element of the modern day media landscape where you scoffed at it at the time when it was starting just to creep through and just thought, there's absolutely no way that is ever going to gain any traction?

Rudd is still expected to do the job he was hired to do.

And everything else on top of that.

A little bit of luck.

You need some luck along the way.

in the Premier League yeah and it's a scroll the previous week PSV went to Newcastle and got absolutely hammered

And they had been going really well.

They were on a long unbeaten run in the year to VC and had beaten Liverpool, hammered Liverpool at Anfield.

And Newcastle just steamrolled them because the physicality of these Premier League teams in comparison to the Bundesliga teams, bar maybe the top, top sides, they're overpowering these teams.

What I would say to Andy Gordon's point is,

He's obviously, he isn't mentioning these teams, but he's talking about these low block teams like a Burnley, for example.

So every week when you, when these teams play in the Premier, the Champions League, they're playing the best teams from those countries.

And those teams, so a PSV Eindhoven, are used to going out and play this free-flowing open football that's almost always good enough to beat whatever their opposition is on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

And so when they go to play in the Champions League, they play in a very similar style.

And so these clubs are allowing

the Liverpool, Tottenham, Newcastle to actually play.

Whereas when they go to play, because they're not going to just go out and put 10, 11 men behind the ball when they're playing Liverpool on a Tuesday evening and then have to then reprogram themselves to go and play a local team in a derby game in the Norwegian League or something on the Saturday.

And so it's almost an affront.