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John Gruber

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The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

Yes, from the company that made Movable Type, did the textile plug-in for Movable Type.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And it was complicated because the original was in PHP and needed to be in Perl for Movable Type.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And I knew Brad.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And I started sending Brad and Dean sort of suggestions because they were changing some things.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And then Dean said to me, this is very important.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

It was like a seminal moment.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And I knew Dean and he was really, really a fan of Daring Fireball.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And I was a huge fan of textism, huge influence on what Daring Fireball still is to this day.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

And Dean just wrote back to me and said something to the effect.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

I have the email somewhere, but it's something to the effect of these are great ideas, but you should just make your own thing.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

So then I made my own thing.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

No, that was an overriding goal.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

I think truly differentiated Markdown from everything else in the sphere was not focusing on the authorship and the typability,

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

even though all the characters are ASCII characters, there's, you know, and I really thought about it cause I'm so Mac centric and it's easy to type, you know, certain characters like option eight to get a real bullet character.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

There's a bunch of easily typed Unicode characters that I thought about putting in the syntax.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

Um, and I was like, nah, I should just stick to the ASCII ones.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

But the readability was more important to me than the writeability that it should be that one,

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

Maybe the overriding goal of it is you should be able to print it out in Markdown format and hand it to somebody who's never heard of Markdown, never used a command line, and they can just read it and they would totally understand what you mean.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

They'd pick that up very quickly.

The Vergecast
# The **epic** story of Markdown

Like, oh, I get it.