John Gruber

And I think a lot of people like we keep talking about and we keep getting feedback about people's changing feelings about tech companies.

And one of the last groups of people who by and large love tech companies is people who work at tech companies.

And this is a super good way to lose those people.

Like you want to take a bunch of people who believe in the mission of your company and just kind of systematically ruin the goodwill that you have with them.

This is a really good way

Yeah.

Really, really, really is.

All right.

Well, on that happy note, it's time for us to get out of here.

We need to go source some touch bars for the touch bar at WWDC.

This is really a thing we should do.

We should figure out how to do this.

I don't know if we're going to do it this year, but this is a thing we should do.

And then he gets to swat you with the touch bar if he doesn't like your opinions.

We should say before we go, thank you to everybody who voted for us in the Webby's.

We won the People's Voice Award for Best Technology Podcast, which if I'm being honest, is the only one of the two awards I care about.

Congrats to Future Around and Find Out who won the other award for being a good podcast with a very funny name.

But we won the one that I care about and that is all thanks to you.

So thank you to everybody who voted.

Um, also you have like a couple more days to send in questions for version history.