John Kiriakou
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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You're spying on members of Congress.
What do you mean there's nothing to see here?
Move along.
It was a crime, but never prosecuted.
I've consistently been criticized as being too optimistic in life about everything.
I'm always that glass half full guy.
That's a great way to be.
I'm happy with the way I lead my life.
On this, I can't see any reason at all to be optimistic.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There are no more Frank Churches or Barry Goldwaters or, you know, real leaders, real leaders.
I mean, even Tip O'Neill recognized that Congress was a co-equal participant in government and which drove Jimmy Carter nuts, right?
but allowed him to negotiate successfully with Ronald Reagan.
Why can't we have that?
That worked.
Why can't we go back to that?
I don't know.
I think that's what we're seeing.