John Kiriakou

Yeah.

It sure would be.

Yeah, they've been-

kings of the porn industry for decades, whether it's in Brooklyn, it's heavily based in Brooklyn or in what's it called?

Hawthorne, California, up by Northridge.

Yeah, that's the two bases of the porn industry.

And it's almost exclusively Israeli.

My pleasure.

Sure.

I was born and raised in western Pennsylvania in a very rural, tiny town in Amish country north of Pittsburgh by about one hour.

Really, my biggest influences in my life were my dad and my grandfather, my father's father.

My entire family emigrated to the United States from Greece, from the island of Rhodes.

All four of the grandparents in 1931 on my dad's side, 1934 on my mother's side.

The week after I turned 18, I went to Washington, D.C., went to school at George Washington University.

I earned a...

I earned a bachelor's degree in Middle Eastern studies, and I stayed for a master's degree in legislative affairs with a focus on American foreign policy analysis.

My graduate school advisor, it turned out, was undercover as a graduate school advisor.

He was a CIA officer looking for people who might fit into the CIA's culture.

He believed that I would fit into the CIA's culture, and he recruited me into the CIA.

I spent 15 years there.