John Kiriakou
π€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Treason, maybe, in some cases.
And you're gonna do it.
Maybe because you think I'm great and you love me and you love this friendship we've developed.
Maybe it's for the money.
Maybe it's because you've been passed over for promotion and you want to get revenge against your boss.
Maybe it's because you just love the United States because you love these Hollywood movies and you want a piece of it.
Or maybe you're an adrenaline junkie and you just love the excitement of the clandestinity.
But for one reason or another,
you're going to say yes to that pitch.
Nine times out of 10, you just go in cold and you have a pocket full of business cards and you just hand them out to everybody.
Once in a while, I can count twice in my career where headquarters sent me a cable and saying, there's this party at such and such an embassy.
We heard the North Koreans are going to be there or the Russians are going to be there.
And so I say, okay.
And then I make sure that I go and I, you know, in one case, I actually did surveillance on the North Korean for several days before the party.
And I noticed that he was literally going fishing every day after work so that he could eat.
Wow.
And I thought, OK, well, if he doesn't if he doesn't run screaming from the room.
I'm going to take him to a nice restaurant.
I'm sorry to say that he ran screaming from the room, but not literally, figuratively.
So that went nowhere.