John Lechner
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And so Prigozhin has this massive incentive now to go out against ISIS and capture as much of those assets as he can. And so in 2017, Murad and Wagner are back in Syria. And this is right around the time where ISIS is collapsing. The U.S. is backing the Kurdish SDF. The SDF is coming from the northeast south. They're heading for ISIS's capital, Raqqa.
And so Prigozhin has this massive incentive now to go out against ISIS and capture as much of those assets as he can. And so in 2017, Murad and Wagner are back in Syria. And this is right around the time where ISIS is collapsing. The U.S. is backing the Kurdish SDF. The SDF is coming from the northeast south. They're heading for ISIS's capital, Raqqa.
And so Prigozhin has this massive incentive now to go out against ISIS and capture as much of those assets as he can. And so in 2017, Murad and Wagner are back in Syria. And this is right around the time where ISIS is collapsing. The U.S. is backing the Kurdish SDF. The SDF is coming from the northeast south. They're heading for ISIS's capital, Raqqa.
And Wagner and Assad forces are heading north. And at a certain point, there's this factory that Murad is talking about called Conoco, which is sort of the crown jewel of all the assets. It's valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And it was one of ISIS's most valuable assets for fuel smuggling.
And Wagner and Assad forces are heading north. And at a certain point, there's this factory that Murad is talking about called Conoco, which is sort of the crown jewel of all the assets. It's valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And it was one of ISIS's most valuable assets for fuel smuggling.
And Wagner and Assad forces are heading north. And at a certain point, there's this factory that Murad is talking about called Conoco, which is sort of the crown jewel of all the assets. It's valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And it was one of ISIS's most valuable assets for fuel smuggling.
So, Progozhin wants this. And he's sending letters, too, to the Syrian government, saying that they're not upholding their end of the bargain, that he's spending all of this money on the offensive, and the Syrians aren't paying him. So, he sees Conoco as the way to kind of get profitability, get out of the red and into the black.
So, Progozhin wants this. And he's sending letters, too, to the Syrian government, saying that they're not upholding their end of the bargain, that he's spending all of this money on the offensive, and the Syrians aren't paying him. So, he sees Conoco as the way to kind of get profitability, get out of the red and into the black.
So, Progozhin wants this. And he's sending letters, too, to the Syrian government, saying that they're not upholding their end of the bargain, that he's spending all of this money on the offensive, and the Syrians aren't paying him. So, he sees Conoco as the way to kind of get profitability, get out of the red and into the black.
The only issue is that as ISIS is collapsing, everyone is thinking what a post-ISIS world is going to look like. So the Kurds, with the blessing of the US, start moving away from Raqqa and heading south towards Deir ez-Zor. And there's a rush. for who's going to get this conical plant when ISIS is gone. And the SDF, the Kurdish forces backed by special forces, get there first.
The only issue is that as ISIS is collapsing, everyone is thinking what a post-ISIS world is going to look like. So the Kurds, with the blessing of the US, start moving away from Raqqa and heading south towards Deir ez-Zor. And there's a rush. for who's going to get this conical plant when ISIS is gone. And the SDF, the Kurdish forces backed by special forces, get there first.
The only issue is that as ISIS is collapsing, everyone is thinking what a post-ISIS world is going to look like. So the Kurds, with the blessing of the US, start moving away from Raqqa and heading south towards Deir ez-Zor. And there's a rush. for who's going to get this conical plant when ISIS is gone. And the SDF, the Kurdish forces backed by special forces, get there first.
How many guys did you have gathered to attack Konnikovo at that time?
How many guys did you have gathered to attack Konnikovo at that time?
How many guys did you have gathered to attack Konnikovo at that time?
beginning of the morning because this happened on February 8th, right? February.
beginning of the morning because this happened on February 8th, right? February.
beginning of the morning because this happened on February 8th, right? February.
And you were in the room the day before or a couple of days before where Utkin He comes in and he says, we're going to take this from the Americans. And someone said, are the Americans going to be there?
And you were in the room the day before or a couple of days before where Utkin He comes in and he says, we're going to take this from the Americans. And someone said, are the Americans going to be there?