John Lechner

And they would back away and retreat along with the Kurds. And he was incredibly mistaken in that calculation. And what I think he wasn't counting on and what Murad is saying is that when the Americans were calling into the Ministry of Defense, you have some poor guy on the line who is also not going to be responsible for World War III.

And so the quickest thing that you're going to do is not say, yeah, those are my guys attacking U.S. soldiers. They're going to say, don't know anything about it, don't know what you're talking about, and try to go to your higher-ups to cover your own butt.

And so the quickest thing that you're going to do is not say, yeah, those are my guys attacking U.S. soldiers. They're going to say, don't know anything about it, don't know what you're talking about, and try to go to your higher-ups to cover your own butt.

And so the quickest thing that you're going to do is not say, yeah, those are my guys attacking U.S. soldiers. They're going to say, don't know anything about it, don't know what you're talking about, and try to go to your higher-ups to cover your own butt.

And so ultimately it was probably, he probably got, Provozhin probably had kind of a wink and a nod from the Ministry of Defense that he was going to try to do this. And if it worked out, it's a great Russian victory for everybody, Assad, the Russians, Prigozhin. And if it doesn't, in the Ministry of Defense's mind, it's just Wagner guys who are getting killed.

And so ultimately it was probably, he probably got, Provozhin probably had kind of a wink and a nod from the Ministry of Defense that he was going to try to do this. And if it worked out, it's a great Russian victory for everybody, Assad, the Russians, Prigozhin. And if it doesn't, in the Ministry of Defense's mind, it's just Wagner guys who are getting killed.

And so ultimately it was probably, he probably got, Provozhin probably had kind of a wink and a nod from the Ministry of Defense that he was going to try to do this. And if it worked out, it's a great Russian victory for everybody, Assad, the Russians, Prigozhin. And if it doesn't, in the Ministry of Defense's mind, it's just Wagner guys who are getting killed.

Wow. No one. And you were responsible for counting the bodies, right? And reporting it.

Wow. No one. And you were responsible for counting the bodies, right? And reporting it.

Wow. No one. And you were responsible for counting the bodies, right? And reporting it.

Oh, so he was there for the ceremony of the burial. Ah, burial.

Oh, so he was there for the ceremony of the burial. Ah, burial.

Oh, so he was there for the ceremony of the burial. Ah, burial.

So eventually in the morning, the Ministry of Defense got in touch with the Americans and it was agreed, the Americans agreed to a two hour pause so that the Russians could collect weapons and dead.

So eventually in the morning, the Ministry of Defense got in touch with the Americans and it was agreed, the Americans agreed to a two hour pause so that the Russians could collect weapons and dead.

So eventually in the morning, the Ministry of Defense got in touch with the Americans and it was agreed, the Americans agreed to a two hour pause so that the Russians could collect weapons and dead.

But eventually they told the Americans, we need to go collect. So eventually they said there might be some Russians there, to the Americans.

But eventually they told the Americans, we need to go collect. So eventually they said there might be some Russians there, to the Americans.

But eventually they told the Americans, we need to go collect. So eventually they said there might be some Russians there, to the Americans.

Yeah, there's no denying it anymore.