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John Lechner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
435 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

While for the Russian government, they're losing, in their mind, some of the worst people in society, right? These convicts. And so, you know, it's like a four to one ratio in terms of losses. but it's something that the Russians and Progozhin are willing to do for the reasons that Murat said.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

While for the Russian government, they're losing, in their mind, some of the worst people in society, right? These convicts. And so, you know, it's like a four to one ratio in terms of losses. but it's something that the Russians and Progozhin are willing to do for the reasons that Murat said.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But, you know, at this point, though, Progozhin is like an internet... Like, we all know who Progozhin is, right? During the Bakhmut campaign. He becomes, like, the face of the war itself. CNN is trying to reach him. The New York Times is trying to reach him for an interview. He's, you know, he's huge back home in Russia. He's, like, finally everything that he...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But, you know, at this point, though, Progozhin is like an internet... Like, we all know who Progozhin is, right? During the Bakhmut campaign. He becomes, like, the face of the war itself. CNN is trying to reach him. The New York Times is trying to reach him for an interview. He's, you know, he's huge back home in Russia. He's, like, finally everything that he...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But, you know, at this point, though, Progozhin is like an internet... Like, we all know who Progozhin is, right? During the Bakhmut campaign. He becomes, like, the face of the war itself. CNN is trying to reach him. The New York Times is trying to reach him for an interview. He's, you know, he's huge back home in Russia. He's, like, finally everything that he...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

you know, his ego is matched now by his popularity.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

you know, his ego is matched now by his popularity.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

you know, his ego is matched now by his popularity.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But still, I mean, there's still a lot of enmity between the Minister of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, and Prigozhin. And so at some point, inevitably, especially since Prigozhin is having all of this success like Murat mentioned, the Ministry of Defense is going to want to check him. And so the first way that they do it is they start cutting off Prigozhin from convict recruitment.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But still, I mean, there's still a lot of enmity between the Minister of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, and Prigozhin. And so at some point, inevitably, especially since Prigozhin is having all of this success like Murat mentioned, the Ministry of Defense is going to want to check him. And so the first way that they do it is they start cutting off Prigozhin from convict recruitment.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But still, I mean, there's still a lot of enmity between the Minister of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, and Prigozhin. And so at some point, inevitably, especially since Prigozhin is having all of this success like Murat mentioned, the Ministry of Defense is going to want to check him. And so the first way that they do it is they start cutting off Prigozhin from convict recruitment.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

So he's promised to Putin, I'm gonna take Bakhmut, but his means of doing so now is disappearing. He needs a lot of bodies to take Bakhmut. The Ministry of Defense is cutting him off of those bodies. Not because they're against prisoner recruitment, they just start doing it themselves.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

So he's promised to Putin, I'm gonna take Bakhmut, but his means of doing so now is disappearing. He needs a lot of bodies to take Bakhmut. The Ministry of Defense is cutting him off of those bodies. Not because they're against prisoner recruitment, they just start doing it themselves.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

So he's promised to Putin, I'm gonna take Bakhmut, but his means of doing so now is disappearing. He needs a lot of bodies to take Bakhmut. The Ministry of Defense is cutting him off of those bodies. Not because they're against prisoner recruitment, they just start doing it themselves.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But the difference is, and this is always the issue for Prigozhin, is when he was doing it, he had the permission by like a wink and a nod from the presidential administration. When the Ministry of Defense does it, Russian Parliament officially makes it legal for them to recruit from prison. So there's always a way that Prokhorin can get screwed over in whatever he's doing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But the difference is, and this is always the issue for Prigozhin, is when he was doing it, he had the permission by like a wink and a nod from the presidential administration. When the Ministry of Defense does it, Russian Parliament officially makes it legal for them to recruit from prison. So there's always a way that Prokhorin can get screwed over in whatever he's doing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But the difference is, and this is always the issue for Prigozhin, is when he was doing it, he had the permission by like a wink and a nod from the presidential administration. When the Ministry of Defense does it, Russian Parliament officially makes it legal for them to recruit from prison. So there's always a way that Prokhorin can get screwed over in whatever he's doing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

So he's getting cut off. And so now he starts going public with the Ministry of Defense saying, I'm not getting enough ammunition. for what we're trying to do. And the Ministry of Defense is screwing over Wagner by not giving us enough ammunition that we need. And so, now this spat starts going very public over social media.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

So he's getting cut off. And so now he starts going public with the Ministry of Defense saying, I'm not getting enough ammunition. for what we're trying to do. And the Ministry of Defense is screwing over Wagner by not giving us enough ammunition that we need. And so, now this spat starts going very public over social media.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

So he's getting cut off. And so now he starts going public with the Ministry of Defense saying, I'm not getting enough ammunition. for what we're trying to do. And the Ministry of Defense is screwing over Wagner by not giving us enough ammunition that we need. And so, now this spat starts going very public over social media.