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John Lechner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

And he also thinks too or is hoping in the back of his mind that all of that popularity that he had from being on social media and being on Russian TV on the front lines of Bakhmut means that the soldiers in the Russian military itself are on his side too.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

And so he goes, and they've taken the military command, and the generals who are there are trying to talk him down, and they're not able to do it. And so Progozhin announces that they're going to have a march for justice on Moscow. And the column of Wagner, the Wagner column turns from southern Russian military command and starts heading up the highway to Moscow. And

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

And so he goes, and they've taken the military command, and the generals who are there are trying to talk him down, and they're not able to do it. And so Progozhin announces that they're going to have a march for justice on Moscow. And the column of Wagner, the Wagner column turns from southern Russian military command and starts heading up the highway to Moscow. And

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

And so he goes, and they've taken the military command, and the generals who are there are trying to talk him down, and they're not able to do it. And so Progozhin announces that they're going to have a march for justice on Moscow. And the column of Wagner, the Wagner column turns from southern Russian military command and starts heading up the highway to Moscow. And

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

mean this is i mean i think everybody was glued to their tv screens to see like wagner uh a column heading on moscow and the mayor of moscow they started digging up the highway around moscow to prevent uh their you know their potential arrival uh wagner shoots down i think a number of helicopters and and planes about 13 people are killed

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

mean this is i mean i think everybody was glued to their tv screens to see like wagner uh a column heading on moscow and the mayor of moscow they started digging up the highway around moscow to prevent uh their you know their potential arrival uh wagner shoots down i think a number of helicopters and and planes about 13 people are killed

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

mean this is i mean i think everybody was glued to their tv screens to see like wagner uh a column heading on moscow and the mayor of moscow they started digging up the highway around moscow to prevent uh their you know their potential arrival uh wagner shoots down i think a number of helicopters and and planes about 13 people are killed

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But each time, you know, he's getting... Provozhin is getting closer and closer to Moscow. And he's also kind of going into empty space. And so now he's trying to communicate to Putin that all he is trying to do is take out his rivals, Shoigu and Gerasimov. He's not trying to overthrow... Putin himself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But each time, you know, he's getting... Provozhin is getting closer and closer to Moscow. And he's also kind of going into empty space. And so now he's trying to communicate to Putin that all he is trying to do is take out his rivals, Shoigu and Gerasimov. He's not trying to overthrow... Putin himself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But each time, you know, he's getting... Provozhin is getting closer and closer to Moscow. And he's also kind of going into empty space. And so now he's trying to communicate to Putin that all he is trying to do is take out his rivals, Shoigu and Gerasimov. He's not trying to overthrow... Putin himself.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But the issue is, the closer he's getting to Moscow, the more he could accidentally be unleashing a coup, because it's going to be such a destabilizing moment. At some point, he's trying to say, I'm not overthrowing the government, but now it's getting close to looking like he might overthrow the government if he gets into Moscow.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But the issue is, the closer he's getting to Moscow, the more he could accidentally be unleashing a coup, because it's going to be such a destabilizing moment. At some point, he's trying to say, I'm not overthrowing the government, but now it's getting close to looking like he might overthrow the government if he gets into Moscow.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

But the issue is, the closer he's getting to Moscow, the more he could accidentally be unleashing a coup, because it's going to be such a destabilizing moment. At some point, he's trying to say, I'm not overthrowing the government, but now it's getting close to looking like he might overthrow the government if he gets into Moscow.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

Behind the scenes, the president of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, is negotiating between Putin's side and Prigozhin. Eventually, he gets Prigozhin to agree to halt the march. I think for Prigozhin himself, he was a little bit relieved because he was realizing that events were...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

Behind the scenes, the president of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, is negotiating between Putin's side and Prigozhin. Eventually, he gets Prigozhin to agree to halt the march. I think for Prigozhin himself, he was a little bit relieved because he was realizing that events were...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

Behind the scenes, the president of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, is negotiating between Putin's side and Prigozhin. Eventually, he gets Prigozhin to agree to halt the march. I think for Prigozhin himself, he was a little bit relieved because he was realizing that events were...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

going out of his control by... I mean, they were hardly in his control beforehand, but the closer he was getting to Moscow, and they got within 150 miles, things were really starting to get out of control, and he backs down. And you could make an argument that the guy who had...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

going out of his control by... I mean, they were hardly in his control beforehand, but the closer he was getting to Moscow, and they got within 150 miles, things were really starting to get out of control, and he backs down. And you could make an argument that the guy who had...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

going out of his control by... I mean, they were hardly in his control beforehand, but the closer he was getting to Moscow, and they got within 150 miles, things were really starting to get out of control, and he backs down. And you could make an argument that the guy who had...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

You know, an insane risk tolerance, you know, from going after, you know, going against Americans in the Battle of Kasham and, you know, risking his neck saying he's going to take Bakhmut like this was perhaps the one moment where he should have doubled down and gone all the way to Moscow. But he chose not to.