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John Lisle

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And he had used the quote because he was quoting he was talking about when he was in Europe at the end of the war.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

He told someone he was in the OSS and they said, oh, the OSS guys are the kind of guys who blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And I thought, OK, well, he's recalling this from memory.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So this must be the origin of the quote.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

Then what are all these other books quoting?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So finally, that interlibrary loan comes in and I get it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And it basically says the quote, but it's a little bit different, and it's referring to Donovan, again, and not just OSS guys in general, and it doesn't cite a source.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So I thought, okay, what happened is the guy who wrote that book, he had read Sterling Hayden's book, he had taken the quote, and he liked it, but he wanted to apply it to Donovan, so he switched the subject and he changed the quote a little bit, and everyone after that, dozens of different books, have cited that as their original source, and it was about the wrong person and not even the right quote.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And that's for one quote in my book.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

That's the amount of work you have to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

If anyone is interested in that, though, in my book, I cite the original book, obviously, because that's what... But next to what I said, also see Joseph Persico, blah, blah, blah, the original book.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So that's the book that I originally found the quote in.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So if they want to go down the rabbit hole, they can follow his book to that book to that book to that book.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So it's a lot of rabbit holes going down, even just to find the origins of things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And one thing I especially noticed in doing this, too, is the ability for humans to rationalize.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

Anything to agree with what they already think is true is almost limitless.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

I give an example in this book of a psychologist named Leon Festinger.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

He wrote this book called When Prophecy Fails.