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John Lisle

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1560 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So the capacity for humans to rationalize things, if you start from a false premise, we can rationalize a world to make sure that we believe in that false premise.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

People typically associate rationalization with religion or this kind of cult behavior like this group I explained.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But actually, I'm a historian of science, and it actually plays an important role in science itself, like the method of science, how science works.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

If you don't mind, if I can briefly describe the philosophy of Thomas Kuhn.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

He's this famous philosopher of science.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

He wrote the most influential book in the philosophy of science called The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, basically explaining how does science change or progress over time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

His concept was that scientists operate within a paradigm, a worldview.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So we believe in Newtonian gravity or we have the worldview of the germ theory of disease or whatever it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So this is our paradigm, whatever group of scientists we are.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

Within that paradigm, we do normal science.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

We do experiments to try to prove our paradigm right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So if my paradigm is, you know, if I'm a follower of Ptolemy and I believe in the geocentric universe, I'm going to be observing the way that the, you know, the planets and the stars are moving across the sky to try to prove Ptolemy right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

I'm going to try to prove that his predictions actually come true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So this is just called puzzle solving.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

What scientists actually do, Thomas Kuhn says, many of them, they just puzzle solve.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

They just try to prove the paradigm right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

In the process of doing that, they uncover occasionally an anomaly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

An anomaly is something that seems to contradict the paradigm.