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John Lisle

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

I forget which one it was.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So I get them to send me a photocopy of every single page, and it turns out that had the two missing pages.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So it's like, oh, my gosh, now I can actually use that information.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But they didn't have the two pages out of 1,000 that I actually needed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So there are like 1,000 stories about these crazy coincidences that happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

One of them, again, from my first book, was โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

About Stanley Lovell, he's this chemist in the OSS creating all these ingenious gadgets and whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

He talks in his memoir about his wartime experience about being on this biological warfare committee where they were discussing the possibility of using anthrax and tularemia and tuberculosis and distributing this across towns and just discussing what would happen, what would we need to be able to do this, what would have to happen for us to engage in biological warfare.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But he talks about this in his memoir.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But I had never seen, you know, a copy of that meeting minutes of that meeting or anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

He said that this this group, this biological warfare committee, it was part of the National Academy of Sciences.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And I thought, OK, well, that's interesting.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But, you know, I can't hardly put it in the book if I don't actually have the minutes in the meeting where they're talking about this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

Because Stanley Lovell was known to exaggerate, to say the least, some of the stuff that he was up to during the war.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But then I thought to myself, I kind of remember several years earlier when I was writing my dissertation before this book, I had gone to the National Academy of Sciences because I was working on some scientists in government.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And I ended up taking just a bunch of pictures of a lot of the materials they had in their archives.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And I went back through the material that I already had.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And it turns out I had taken pictures of the minutes of the very meeting Stanley Lovell was talking about in his memoir.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

It was already in my possession.