John Lisle

Maybe it is the case that the CIA created AIDS in Fort Dedrick or whatever it is.

So that's one tactic that I talk about at the very end.

Yeah.

So it can go both ways in the sense that fake stories can delegitimize true stories, but true stories legitimize fake stories.

Is it like some government entity wanting to do this to sow confusion?

Yeah, I know the Russian government had I think it was called like the Internet Research Agency or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there's there's a book called Active Measures by Thomas Ridd.

And he kind of chronicles what they were doing.

Basically, young people would be hired to.

pose as whoever anyone wanted to be posed as I guess the Russian government to spread certain amounts of disinformation to certain communities so they would just create fake profiles and your whole job at work would be to cycle through these different profiles and comment on people's posts and post your own and then boost the post of your fellow disinformation actors in this IRA so that their posts would be seen by more people there's a whole there's a whole organization or a whole you know whatever it is

Yeah.

And, I mean, one of the things now with social media, but just in a globalized world, any amount of conflict is kind of available for anyone to see.

Yeah.

you know, the worst thing in the world that happens today, you're probably going to learn about it.

You're going to know about it, which that can't be good for your mental health to constantly be bombarded by this negative stuff.

It's not that in the past, all this negative stuff didn't happen.

It's just that in the past, you were probably more focused on your community because it's not like you're got constant access to what's going on in Myanmar at the second or whatever it is.

So the fact that you're constantly able to see the worst thing happening in the world, that cannot be good just for your mentality.