John Mackey

But he was wrong about this decision.

He did not want to let me bring him back.

And I started, I was talking to him, I said, Dave, listen,

Trust me, I'm the general in the field.

This is bad for Whole Foods.

It doesn't matter if Amazon doesn't want to do this.

Trust me, I know this is the best thing for Whole Foods.

And he said, it triggered him.

And when I started talking about being the general in the field, trusted general in the field, and he says,

God damn it, John, why don't you just fucking do what you're told to do once?

You ought to argue about everything.

And I said, Dave, can you give me any other examples of me ever arguing with you about anything?

And he thinks about it and he says, I don't fucking have to give you an example.

I know it and everybody at Amazon knows it.

It's like, whoa.

Everybody at Amazon knows it?

Knows what?

I mean, it's like, and I said, Dave, I can see you're really triggered.

And I think maybe we should not have this conversation any longer.

And so we got off the Zoom call.