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John Makita

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208 total appearances

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The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And that went on for, you know, several hours for each of us.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

essentially trying to rule out the family because in these instances, you know, family is always the first suspect.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And then from there, yeah, a lot of those early years just became a bit of a blur, but I'll never forget that night ever in my life.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

In those first few years after it had all happened, we just let the police do what they needed to do.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

We were obviously grieving.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

We tried to live our lives as best as possible and just not think about it as much.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And then sort of like it got to the stage where

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

In probably around 2010 to 11, I decided I had started a successful business as a graphic designer and I was doing quite well.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And I thought, you know what, I have the resources at my hand.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

I'm not satisfied with where things are going because just there had been obviously no arrests and no progress in the case that I would get on board with the Who Killed Emma campaign and ensure that nobody in Canberra forgot what had happened on that night in November 1999.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

Well, it's interesting because, yeah, I spent a phenomenal amount of time working in the Canberra community to get the message out, not knowing that it was all the way down the road in Melbourne where we should have been concentrating.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

But I started to realise through just talking with police over the years that resources weren't available to continuously work on a lot of these cold cases, including ours, which was one of the most recent ones.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And there were questions about people who had submitted evidence or leads to ACT policing, but there was no resources available to be following them up.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And that sort of like got me into the frame of mind that I really need to do something now about this, because if that is the case, then I want the police and I want the government to do everything they possibly can to be able to catch these people.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

I was actually interstate for work and I had received a call from Craig Marriott to say that we've actually arrested, we're about to arrest somebody.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

So they had given us a 24 hours heads up just to let the family know.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

to prepare ourselves.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

And so I flew back to Canberra so that we could do some media straight away as soon as it had happened.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

But that was essentially the first time that we had known that they were actually going to arrest somebody for the crime, the first person.

The Case Of
15 The Two Intruders | We talk to Irma’s grandson

It was a little bit of disbelief.