John McCarthy
Appearances
Infamous
Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
As soon as they left, Jaina Murray called Rachel. Rachel was the store manager. She was about a 30-year-old young woman who was working on her own PhD. Again, typical profile for these brilliant young women that worked there. And Jaina said, look, I think I caught Britney stealing tonight.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
They're still there. There's no blood on them now, but they obviously had been worn earlier. Who's going to stick around, wash these shoes off? They also did a luminol spray test.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
Luminol spray is a reactive agent that allows you to see, it's almost like a black light poster glow, and the sinks in the place began to glow and blow up when they were processing them, as if somebody had cleaned up, washed up some blood, And so you're thinking, you say, wait a minute, the shoes are here. Why are the sinks glowing?
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
Who would stay long enough after having committed these crimes and not worry about getting caught, but would stay there for hours doing this?
Infamous
Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
It would be hard to convince somebody that somebody would commit this kind of a brutal murder over a pair of $120 jogging shorts.
Infamous
Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
There were two figures, both black, one taller, one shorter, all dressed in black that went by that camera.
Infamous
Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
That night, around 11.07 p.m., right after the murder would have occurred,
Infamous
Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
There were two gentlemen who were dishwashers in the Hispanic restaurant that was on the corner. It had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Infamous
Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
We found a pair of men's shoes, a pair of men's size 14 sneakers. And they were in there because when you bought gear there, and both men and women's clothing was available at Lululemon, they would fit you with the clothing because they wanted it to look right on you.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
And so the shoes were there so that if you tried on a pair of jogging pants or something like that, they would hem them, they would fit them for you, so you would look great when you went to the gym. Well, these... size 14 shoes. All of a sudden, a detective turned the shoes over.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
There's no obvious signs of blood or anything on them, but he looked at the pattern on the bottom of the shoes and he recognized the pattern on the bottom of that shoes was identical to the pattern of the shoe prints that were all over the store in red, which I think were, you know, at some point in time, he thought, my God, the attacker in this case was wearing these shoes and doing the attack.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
Jaina's car is discovered about a third of a mile away in a parking lot in the middle of Bethesda. We ultimately contact the local police and the police had noticed that car in that parking lot the night before and at some point in time they actually even noticed that it had been occupied by someone.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
These buildings immediately were adjacent to one another, close enough so that if somebody was screaming in the building next door, you could literally hear it in your building.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
There were two assistant managers of the Apple Store, one male, one female, who talked about on Friday evening, about 10, 15 in the evening, They heard an argument coming from next door. The two store managers walked over to the wall. The female employee said to the male, I think there's something going on over here. We ought to pay attention to it.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
They made the determination that they were not going to get involved.
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Murder at Lululemon I Part 2
Both of them said this was clearly an argument between two women.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Also very athletic, loved to work out, liked to have a good time like all the other girls did. One of the things she used to do is if women came in, she would challenge some other customers who thought they were in great shape to push-up contests or sitting-up contests because she thought she could do more push-ups or sit-ups than anybody because she was very strong.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Powerful young woman who'd been a Division I athlete in college.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Und Jaina hat immer wieder geweint und gekämpft. Und er hat mich immer wieder gekämpft. Sie wurden von zwei Männern zurückgeführt. Beide waren in blauem Kleid, einer größer, einer kleiner. Und die beiden Mädchen wurden separiert. Sie konnten hören, dass Jaina von einem der Männern getötet wurde. Und der Mann, der sie entfernte, hat sie sexuell verabschiedet. Es klingelte so schrecklich.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Also absolut schrecklich. Und das wäre die Geschichte, die die lokalen Nachrichten an die Nacht führen würde.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
The pattern on the bottom of that shoe was identical to the pattern of the shoe prints that were all over the store. Hey, hey, hey.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Sonnabendmorgen, schönes Sonnabendmorgen, ein schönes Sonnabendmorgen. His cell phone rings. The first phone call I got were questions from the Washington Post about crowds of people that were beginning to mill on Bethesda Avenue in downtown Bethesda around the Lululemon store.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
I very quickly learned that it was a homicide and I immediately left from where I was having breakfast and went directly to the scene of where the murder had occurred. I assigned this case to myself. They don't seem like the typical kind of people that are going to find themselves Aber was McCarthy nicht wusste, war, dass die Investition in den nächsten Tagen einige bescheuere Töne nehmen würde.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
She was either the black widow or in bad luck. I don't know which.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
If something ever happened to me, then they would know who did it.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Das ist ein Ort, das zwei Türen von der Georgetown Cupcake Store ist. Ich meine, Aber die Frauen, die in dem Lululemon waren, die verletzt wurden, gehörten sehr viel zu Lululemon. In Wahrheit waren sie selbst Mitarbeiter oder Unterrichtsleute, wie sie oft genannt werden.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
And McCarthy told us that she'd come by her job at Lululemon in a really interesting way. The only reason she was even in that store is because she was getting her third master's degree from Johns Hopkins. And one of her professors was somewhat taken with the Lululemon corporate model and said to her as a dissertation topic, potentially, you know, you ought to consider writing about Lululemon.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Und das ist, weshalb sie da war. Sie hat ihr Papier geschrieben, hat ihr Master's Degree, ihr Thesis wurde akzeptiert, aber sie wurde Freunde mit den anderen jungen Frauen, die dort arbeiteten. Sie dachte, sie seien vibrant, sie seien aufregend, sie seien smarte Frauen und sie liebte es, mit ihnen zu reden. Also, auch wenn das Papier fertig war, brauchte sie nicht das Geld.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 1
Sie hat es für die Gemeinschaft gemacht. Also, sich mit diesen jungen Frauen zu engagieren, war etwas, was sie genossen hat.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 4
Have you had a chance to talk to the Lululemon people? Did they reach out for you already?
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 4
Yeah, that's what your sister was saying. Yeah, she came by today. Are they local? It's a Canadian company. So they came here from Canada.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 4
We did have an interaction with Lululemon Corporate, and our contact had to do with mainly with finding out informational backgrounds, information they had mainly about Brittany and why she got moved from a previous job. And also just they were very cooperative in terms of they turned the store over to us.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 4
I mean, basically that store got closed down and we must have been in possession of that score for several weeks to basically do the forensic testing and stuff. So most of it was logistical kinds of contact, background on Brittany, and just the logistical coordination to have access to the crime scene until we got done doing the investigation.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
If she had been convicted of second-degree murder at the time, the maximum penalty would have been 30 years in prison. It's a huge difference between 30 years, where you probably get paroled out in 12 to 15 years, versus life without the possibility of parole. So the stakes were very high. And so what they were attempting to do is, and again, not unlawful,
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
not unheard of as a strategy, try to gain some credibility with the jury because at some point in time, once the forensics were all in, it became very hard to say she didn't have anything to do with it. So just say they've overcharged and try to reduce her exposure to 30 years versus life without the possibility of parole.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
From my perspective, when Brittany lured Jaina back to the store, I think it was to try to, it was to, one, either convince her not to report her and I'm going to quit, I'm going to take another job and I'll leave, to try to talk her out of Reporting her to the supervisor, I will tell you my co-counsel felt that she was lured her back from the very beginning to kill her.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
She murdered Jaina, defiled the body in such a way that it left the impression that she had been sexually assaulted, and then created the same kinds of injuries to herself. It was diabolical and horrific.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
It was more than a pair of jogging pants. It was because she was not only protecting being fired, she actually had gotten another job offer from a gym around the corner. She was going to go. It was going to cost her her career. It was going to reconfirm where she had grieved herself back after being fired at the Georgetown store. It was going to bring that thing up again.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
This was a woman who was going to be unmasked for having committed a relatively minor theft. But it was also going to cost her everything else that she valued in her life at that point in time. And then they quite candidly
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
getting caught stealing from Lululemon was not only going to necessarily cost her her immediate job, if the future employer with whom she had been interviewing learned about it, she wasn't going to get that job either.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
So it was a house of cards on a lot of levels, and there seemed to be some inklings for a number of years that we were sort of headed in this direction with some activities that we've talked about that she was involved in before this.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
But it would be hard to convince somebody that somebody would commit this kind of a brutal murder over a pair of $120 jogging shorts.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
We better make sure we get this right. Because this is a terrible allegation to make against a young woman if it's not true. Murder is a terrible allegation.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
The Lululemon store primarily in Employed all young, young, upwardly mobile, particularly well-educated young women who had ideas of maybe necessarily not working in Lululemon for the rest of their lives, but becoming entrepreneurs.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
That was sort of the whole model. The young women that were attracted to the store, you know, were healthy, vibrant, athletic, upwardly mobile women. That was the whole corporate model as a young woman. The model was not towards building long-term careers with Lululemon.
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Murder at Lululemon | Part 3
It was more about helping develop mindsets and the kind of – that would allow you to move on entrepreneurial and other endeavors.